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Sunday, May 22nd 2011, 8:07pm

Oh... I did try turning up the flow at some of the sprinkler heads without any luck. They do not seem to have been touched by an evil yard elves.

Mitchgo

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Sunday, May 22nd 2011, 10:43pm

Well It's not the sprinkler heads.. It's the valves

If you have 6 zones.. You have 6 valves

It goes Back Flow Assembly >> Main line pipe ( Constantly charged)- branching out throughout your yard>> Valve >> Branching out to a particular zone and sprinkler heads.

Someone could have stopped the flow by turning down the flow controls on the valves.. it's possible but unlikely.

Check your controller, open up the panel and look at the wiring.. There will be a port labeled MV/ Pump. Or just MV ( Master valve) .. Is there a wire leading to this port?

IF there is - turn on a dummy zone ( Ie if you only have 6 zones, turn on zone 7- this will turn on the master valve) Then check out your water meter usage.

By you saying you have bubbling at the sprinkler heads- it does sound to me you have a stuck valve .. which can very well rob your other zone pressures.

Scuba Nana

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Tuesday, May 24th 2011, 7:02pm

Low pressure resolved

The pros showed up this morning and were able to diagnosis and repair my problem today. There was a pressure reducer, but it was buried (not in a box) between the backflow assembly and the meter. There was so little room between those two boxes, I guess the original installers decided they couldn't fit a box in the space. They buried the pressure reducer and it was completely corroded. When the repairman touched it, it fell apart. I must have been losing pressure for a long time. It finally gave out completely last Wed. (letting only a trickle of water through). They also believed that the backflow assembly was not working right (old and somewhat corroded - probably not letting all of the water through). Replacing the backflow assembly and pressure regulartor meant also having to replace the meter and the master solenoid. I really didn't understand why, but they said they could not guarantee the work without a complete replacement of the system. Also, all parts were screwed together and could not be undone one at a time. they had to cut the PVC at a point beyond the master solenoid and then unscrew the backflow valve assembly from the main water shut-off.

Anyway, it's all done and all stations work. They adjusted all sprayers (the pressure is amazing!) The job was a bit pricey ($1,452), but I was in a time crunch and the only other service I talked to could not come out until sometime in June. I hope I didn't get taken... they said the parts were pretty expensive. I wish they could have reused the meter and master solenoid.

Well, that's the solution to my low pressure problem.

Mitchgo

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Tuesday, May 24th 2011, 9:47pm

Well... sounds to me like you got jewed on the pricing.

I understand they need to cover their ass.. But the problem was your PRV.. Not the Back flow assembly, not the valve.. meter.. They were looking to upsell you

If it was me.. I would recommend those upgrades . Replace the PRV and give you a estimate for the rest of the upgrades..

A 3/4" PRV is like around $80-100.. I could have replaced it in probably 2-4 man hours depending on the situation..

But at least it sounds like they did a good job.

Wet_Boots

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Wednesday, May 25th 2011, 7:15am

Replacing the backflow preventer may have made sense if it buys you years of protection the current one may not have been able to provide. And it can make sense, timewise, to replace more than just the PRV, if it is shoehorned into an impossible location.

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Wednesday, May 25th 2011, 10:22am

Sprinklers fixed, but expensive repair...

The PRV was in an impossible position to get to, so they spread things out when they replaced everything. They also put the PRV in it's own box w/gravel underneath. Hopefullly, it won't be exposed to the dirt/water and will not get corroded so easily. I really appreciate all of the feedback I've been getting from everyone here on the SprinklerTalk forum. Thanks for your prompt and helpful insights.

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Wednesday, May 25th 2011, 10:28am

Repair of PRV

By the way, it took two men from 10:30am to 5:00pm to complete the job. They did take time to go pick up parts (about an hour). They also adjusted all of my sprinkler heads. Now that I have so much pressure, they needed to be turned down. But, I still thought it seemed an excessive amount of time. I guess they wanted to give me my money's worth in labor. One man was on his cell phone quite a lot. The other man had only worked for the company for the last two weeks. He did most of the work with supervision. (Thankfully, he was a licensed plumber who has his own company... just not enough business, so he's moonlighting as a sprinkler repairman.) Thought you'd be interested in how long it took these guys.....

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