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The last 10 posts

Tuesday, November 4th 2003, 5:42am

by Rays Sprinklers

I dont bother with drains,,,,,just another thing to worry about......blowing out does the same thing... Iam sure they have their positives and negatives just as everything else does!

Monday, November 3rd 2003, 8:53am

by drpete3

I just blew out my system yesterday and this past spring I installed harmony drains on a few zones. Overall, those lines were pretty clear before I set up the air compressor. I added the drains for extra freeze protection, not to substitute for blowing the system out. I think if that is how it is explained then people will pay for the extra protection. They know that having you back out in a few years for repairs from freezing will be expensive and will take precautionary measures.

I know that if the system is blown out then they wont have the freeze problems but stuff happens. That is why I did it to my system.

Saturday, November 1st 2003, 10:09am

by Rays Sprinklers


Friday, October 31st 2003, 3:08pm

by Joseph L. Swinehart

Yes I did.

A 5 psi drain in the lowest end of every zone. I would bury the drain plugs very low and surround them in rock.

They do work but, I agree nothing beats haveing the system blown out. Explain every option to the customer and let them decide. The majority of people always chose both, drain and purging but yes I do believe a system with drains put in properly can be very productive.

Joe S.

Friday, October 31st 2003, 12:20pm

by Rays Sprinklers

i dont install self draining systems. blowing it out is the best have to explain your process and what the other guys do thats wrong. Supply a list of people you have serviced to verify...its hard...but just really explain

Thursday, October 30th 2003, 12:04pm


You install self-draining systems?

Wednesday, October 29th 2003, 2:24pm

by Joseph L. Swinehart

Bidding is and always will be difficult due to people who bid very low and do put in the cheapest parts.

I explained to the customer that cheap is not the way to go, left me card and actually have left a good part for them to compare (one PGP rotor can do alot).

Their reputation WILL catch up with them. Your will also help you, no advertisement will ever compete with word of mouth.

Get a list of referals, reward any referal that did help but also go back and correct the one's that were not so kind and get them on your side.

Don't go to the dark side stay with slight profits and good parts.

I have also installed drain lines and explained how they are self drainiong, actually showed them how they work, but come Oct - Nov got the call to blowout their system.

Joe S.

Thursday, October 16th 2003, 4:24pm


<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by SprinklerGuy</i>
<br />so let me sell them a self draining system for 300-500 more than a normal system....but yet you trust the self draining system so little that you get them to pay you to blow it out too? I call BS on this one dude. Sorry but if that is truly what you are doing it is wrong. Besides, as far as I remember you work on a golf course.....right?
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Dude, it's not what I want, it's what the people want. If I had the choice I would just not blow them out, but every year I have calls insisting that I blow them out too, because there neighbor with the non-draining said it's best to blow them out. I don't think that's stealing money, is it?

Thursday, October 16th 2003, 8:16am

by bhungue2


Thursday, October 16th 2003, 7:24am

by SprinklerGuy

There isn't anything to tell them unless you have a reputation to point them to. I have been in business for almost 10 years and I still have the same problem you do.....however most people can tell we are reliable, honest, and good at what we do when the estimator speaks intelligently with them. There are some companies with great salesman/estimators that install crap systems, these are the ones to watch out for.

I would say this too, know your numbers, know how much you need to make daily, bid accordingly. Don't get greedy. Perhaps you can install a quality system for less?